Robert Shaw began his career as a first-round draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys, but the CEO of Columbus Realty Partners has gained more fame as a walkability pioneer and for his many multifamily and mixed-use projects in the region. Dan Noble, CEO of HKS Inc., runs one of the country’s largest architecture and design firms and is an influential voice for smart development.

Shortly before shelter-in-place, D CEO brought the two executives together for a lively conversation at HKS’ downtown Dallas office. It’s all part of our one-on-one Suite Talk series, filmed and produced by Matthew Osborne of 19 Production House.

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