Wick has a picture of himself with Ronald Reagan in his office. He (Wick, not Reagan) was once the publisher of National Review. He currently sits on the board of trustees of the American Ideas Institute, which publishes “The American Conservative.”
Were you kidding, and I just didn’t get your joke?
JamieT
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, which is why I’m often identified with the hotel industry. But I never voted for Barack Obama.
Incidentally, your colleague Rod Dreher, without whose online blog draw and fundraising abilities The American Conservative simply would not exist (ask Steve Unz), is best described by anyone who has read him at length over time as “transideological”, not conservative, in the same way that Bruce-Caitlyn Jenner is described as “transsexual”.
Happy Bennett
I still like the idea of Wick et al leading the way by making their own personal (monetary, property) reparations, rather than crudely altering my environment.
JamieT
Except that these opportunities are being groped to raise and MAKE money, not to spend it. Any spending will be relegated to the taxpayers.
Happy Bennett
We should change all that. Wick and his historical monument hating supporters should have a little monetary or public service “skin in the game” as part of their ancestral “guilt by association with the Confederacy” therapy. Perhaps regular attendance to “Confederates Anonymous”?
Because in the world of leftist fascists and their brain dead sympathizers their immediate gratification and perennial need for destruction should overcome any need to preserve property or history. You should worry about what “Wick’s winners” have planned next.
Mavdog
While we can agree that this act of removing the statue should not have been committed without the required process being completed, there is more than meets the eye.
The question of why this monument, complete with a Confederate emblem, sits in front of the County courthouse begs to be answered. Installed in 1924, at the height of the KKK influence, at the building which symbolizes the authority of government over its citizenry.
This fact needs to be recognized: those that wish to keep these Confederate statues and monuments have lost their moral argument for preservation due to the co-opting of those very statues and monuments by the white supremacists.
Marcie Batten
Are you saying allowing a criminal mob to commit wholesale destruction of property enhances “the authority of government over its citizenry”? “Those “that” (sic) wish to keep statues and monuments have lost their moral argument due to the co-opting of those very statues etc by white supremacists”. No kidding? So if “white supremacists” or anyone else you don’t care for use electricity, drink Starbucks, shop at Walgreens, we have “lost our moral argument” if we do the same. LOL!
Mavdog
Please reread my first paragraph. The group who took down the statue should have gone through the necessary process for its removal, not acted on their own.
The position of the statue, and its use of the Confederate medallion, was done to send a message to the minorities of Durham County; the people in power have the ability to leverage the tools of government against minorities. They may have lost the war but they were still powerful enough to erect the statue complete with a Confederate medallion.
Your ridiculous attempt to analogize the “capturing” of these monuments and statues by white nationalists with common activities most people do ignores the issue. You can “LOL!” all you wish but it doesn’t make this issue go away nor minimize the current symbolism of the statues. Your stand on the need to keep these statues and monuments is to point to their history and say they shouldn’t be erased. That is washed away by the fact they now stand as symbols of the white nationalists and their allies, the neo-nazis.
Marcie Batten
Using white supremacists to invoke your own prejudices and censorship is a poor argument.
Mavdog
Yes, I am prejudiced against the white supremacists and neo-nazis. I see them as a threat to our nation and want to stop their progress. I assume you do as well.
I was advocating for the statues and memorials to remain and be enhanced with educational features. However, I have been dissuaded from that position by the white nationalists and their cohorts the neo-nazis use of the statues. You cannot deny the connection between one of the messages these statues represent and these groups narrative: institutional racial discrimination and denial of rights that was ingrained in the Confederacy. That is why the supremacists have latched onto them.
The swastika was originally a Sanskrit symbol of prosperity; now it is nothing more than a symbol of Nazism. The same is being done with these statues. This is not “censorship”, it is recognizing a tool being used by deplorable people and removing it from display on public property.
White supremacists endorsed Obama, so it turns out that they only taint things that the right likes.
Mavdog
That is a disingenuous comment to be sure, could you show all those “White supremacists” who “endorsed Obama”?
Happy Bennett
All those vandals are history’s “winners” and not Neanderthals–(just ask the all knowing socially conscious Wick Allison). They just got a little frisky last night in the urgency to destroy history and public property bypassing their spineless city council one assumes because that Civil War thing of over 150 years ago needs to be handled STAT(before anyone recognizes them as the same bunch who endeared themselves to the public by defecating on police cars during the various Occupy efforts of yesteryear–this being a better opportunity to destroy public property for a “good” cause).
JamieT
When this sort of mob violence and associated police death (from being ordered to sensitively gear down to political correctness) inevitably hits Dallas, perhaps it will be hash-tagged “Wickennacht” in recognition of his contribution to the cause.
Mavdog
The perverse allusion to kristallnacht awards you the invocation of Godwin’s Law. You have lost.
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