Anti-Muslim Sentiment in Irving (And the Imam Who Has To Tolerate It)

Can't we all just get along?

Imam Zia ul-Haque Sheikh: "we always seem to take one step forward, two steps back." Photo by Justin Clemons
Imam Zia ul-Haque Sheikh: “We always seem to take one step forward, two steps back.” Photo by Justin Clemons

In the paper today, Avi Selk has a lengthy story about some anti-Muslim foolishness going on in Irving. It centers on a religious tribunal that is supposedly going to usurp the U.S. Constitution and ruin America. (I’m exaggerating only a little bit.) Last night, the City Council voted 5-4 to support a bill authored by Rep. Jeff Leach (R-Plano) that would forbid such tribunals from using foreign law in their rulings (which is already illegal).

I wrote about all this for the April issue of D Magazine, which won’t mail to subscribers for another three days. So I’m posting the article here. Before I wrote my story, I spent some time with Imam Zia ul-Haque Sheikh, the head of the Islamic Center of Irving and a man who has far more patience and compassion than I do. For your edification:

***

The first thing you notice at the Islamic Center of Irving is its large green dome, or qubba. Representing the vault of heaven, it seems to shine in the afternoon sun atop the center’s bright white mosque, or masjid. The 37,000-square-foot center — a complex that includes the mosque, a school, and a multi-use hall, all currently undergoing expansion — offers an impressive picture in this drab corner of northwest Irving.

When you enter the complex through the Islamic School of Irving (adjacent to the mosque) after early afternoon prayer, the tranquility of the center is broken, if only slightly. The hallway floods with men, many still wearing the traditional cap for prayer, the taqiyah. Most are smiling and shaking hands and offering best wishes and praise for Allah. Many reflexively say hello to the non-Muslim stranger standing in the hallway, looking confused, asking for the man who has led the prayer: Imam Zia ul-Haque Sheikh.

Imam Zia directs me to his office, wasting no time with small talk. He is a busy man, leading five prayers a day — Friday’s midday prayer can draw as many as 2,000 members. He is also an author (Addressing the Taboos: Love, Marriage and Sex in Islam and Islam: Silencing the Critics) and a lecturer (he speaks five languages).

“This all happened very quickly,” he says. His smile suggests weary bemusement over a social-media firestorm that recently engulfed Imam Zia and the Islamic Center. “It started with the right-wing website story. Then suddenly the mayor [of Irving, Beth Van Duyne] is posting on her Facebook page. From that, hatred and misinformation filled her site and others. And, of course, she had never even spoken with us.”

The website was Breitbart.com, and the post was titled “Islamic Tribunal Confirmed in Texas.” The headline suggested this was something new, even though the tribunal — a panel of four who mediate or arbitrate disputes — had been a registered nonprofit in Texas since 2012. In fact, the 25 or so cases the tribunal hears a year are the sort of family law (divorce proceedings) or business disputes (whether remodeling work was done right) that secular mediators often hear; this tribunal is merely guided by Islamic religious principles.

The day the post went up, it was debunked by Snopes.com, which found its claims “false,” concluding: “[T]he tribunal neither possessed nor claimed any ability to supersede extant laws in its jurisdiction, either civil or criminal. Parties are not obligated to participate in the mediation it offers, nor does the center have any power to operate outside the law.”

Other faiths have similar religious arbitration or mediation groups, such as the Christian Peacemaker Ministries and the Jewish Beth Din. In Dallas, the Catholic Diocese of Dallas has a tribunal. Few consider this unusual—until Muslims are involved.

This certainly seems to have been Van Duyne’s major concern. On February 6, she took to Facebook to express her concern about the Breitbart story and let the world know “Sharia Law Court was NOT approved or enacted by the City of Irving.” (No one had suggested it was.) She continued for a few paragraphs, concluding: “While I am working to better understand how this ‘court’ will function and whom will be subject to its decisions, please know if it is determined that there are violations of basic rights occurring, I will not stand idle and will fight with every fiber of my being against this action. Our nation cannot be so overly sensitive in defending other cultures that we stop protecting our own. The American Constitution and our guaranteed rights reigns [sic] supreme in our nation and may that ever be the case.”

The post was shared more than 700 times and elicited commentary ranging from confused (“How did this even come about this is are country”) to hostile (“Those who don’t like it here are welcome to leave.and immigrate any country that will accept you”). In an effort to better understand the theological and cultural underpinnings of the tribunal, Van Duyne appeared on The Glenn Beck Program and proclaimed, “This is not city-sanctioned, we weren’t given an opportunity even to pass anything, and we’re not supportive of it. … I think you need to put your foot down and say this is America, we have laws here already.”

A few facts worth noting:

Most important, the tribunal is not affiliated with the Islamic Center. Imam Zia is one of four members who constitute the tribunal. Its official address is in North Dallas, but the tribunal meets about twice a month for hearings wherever they can find a suitable office (usually in Arlington).

Second: despite Van Duyne’s claims, the city of Irving has taken no stance on the center or the tribunal (which, again, isn’t even in Irving). It did issue a statement saying that the city wants residents to obey the law and that Irving “is proud to have one of the most diverse ZIP codes in the United States.”

Third: Van Duyne’s confusion is one of willful ignorance. All of the foregoing information is available online. If you want to know what the tribunal is and what it does, it has a website. If you want to learn about the Islamic Center — about its history (started in an apartment in Irving in 1989, became an official nonprofit in 1991, current complex opened in 2004), or its education services (a recent sensitivity training workshop: “What Our Neighbors Think of Us and Why”), or its members — it’s all online.

Better yet, show up for the weekly open house on Sundays at 2:30 pm for a tour of the Islamic Center. You should do so, if for no other reason than to meet Imam Zia, something of a hero to the Muslim community. He was born in a mountainous region known as Azad Kashmir, between India and Pakistan. When he was 4, his family moved to England. At 13, he began 12 years of study in a theology program at an Islamic institute. By 16, he had memorized the Quran. In 1994 he completed his master’s (a doctorate in theological foundation followed). Two years later, he took a job at a mosque in Virginia, eventually making his way to Irving, in 2005, because of the Islamic Center’s expansion plans.

After 10 years in his post, Imam Zia has become a leader outside the church as well. He is part of a regular gathering of community activists, including black pastors, who work to see caring leaders elected to the City Council and the school board. He holds meetings at the mosque with local officials (fire chief, police chief, city department heads) so he can relay relevant issues and concerns to his congregation. He makes aiding all the poor in Irving a priority for his mosque. In the past year alone, the center has given more than $50,000 to various causes to help the needy.

“Imam Zia has been a constant source of help for those in need in our community,” says Anthony Emanuel Bond, founder of the Irving NAACP. “He and all the Muslim brothers and sisters that I have met and worked with are so loving and giving. They truly desire nothing more than to serve God and live in peace.”

Having been in Irving for a decade, Imam Zia has grown accustomed to the small-town grandstanding. Although careful not to be too critical of Van Duyne directly, he says the ignorance she displayed is something Muslim-Americans must face in today’s climate, whether that be in Irving (where emails with subject lines like “IRVING ISD INDOCTRINATING ISLAM” make news) or elsewhere (the recent “cartoon contest of the Prophet Muhammad” held in Garland).

“Unfortunately, in terms of understanding, we always seem to take one step forward, two steps back,” Imam Zia says. “But we will continue to do our level best to educate people.”

Three weeks after her Facebok post, Van Duyne finally met with Imam Zia. She told him that she said nothing wrong in her post or on The Glenn Beck Program, so no apology on her part was needed. Imam Zia told me he was disappointed but held no ill will toward her. All of which you could have guessed without my telling you.

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  • JSSS

    Except the House bill at issue does “forbid such tribunals from using foreign law in their rulings.” Other than that, you seem spot on.

    • Eric Celeste

      Huh?

  • Eric Celeste

    This is fun. From Jonathan Neerman on Twitter asking Jeff Leach about his stupid bill: https://twitter.com/leachfortexas/status/578915333966204928

  • RAB

    The Imam sounds reasonable, the tribunal does not appear to be extra-judicial (or binding), and Mayor Van Duyne comes across as Palinesque in her willful stupidity. But because Eric reflexively sides with all flaming and reality-ignoring liberal causes, I’m immediately suspicious and biased against it. (I.e., hard to stop and smell the roses when someone just ripped a paint-peeling fart.) I’m so conflicted.

    • Eric Celeste

      Of course. Goes without saying.

    • Matt Brenneman

      Imams say one thing and do another…there are numerous YouTube videos of imams in public saying that wife beating is bad, and then openly granting the husband permission to beat the wife in these secret mediation meetings.
      Part of this disconnect comes from an Islamic tradition known as “taqiyya”, which gives Muslims the right to lie to a “kafir” (non Muslim) to protect themselves.

  • John David Wells

    Eric….This is Jon-David Wells, Host of The Wells Report. Would you please join us for an interview regarding your pro-Sharia Law piece on this blog? Please call 214 561-9123 and schedule in. Thanks! J-D

    • Eric Celeste

      Hmmm. You sound smart, and the way in which you contacted me inspires confidence. I’ll bet your show explores the nuances of controversial issues. No need to Google you: I’ll do it!

  • Haz

    Very informative! Thank you for educating us and sharing your experience. I love the suggestion of vising the center. I looked it up: http://irvingmasjid.org/images/ODOH%20Web%20Banner.jpg

  • Sierra

    As a Texan, I don’t understand this pro-Islamic nonsense. We’re supposed to be about freedom and equality in this country, none of which are a part of Islam. Islam is about domination, submission and control. It’s not about personal liberties.

    We need laws to stop Islamic Tribunals and Sharia Law because of people like you, Eric, who don’t understand Sharia and its implications. Sharia (or any religious law that does not afford equality and civility) has no place in America. For instance, these Islamic tribunals claim they will only decide civil matters, like divorce or contract disputes. Women are not seen as equals in the Qu’ran or Sharia. Doesn’t matter if “all the parties agree” to the tribunal arbitration. A Muslim woman who is married in an Islamic country and moves here is going to defer to her husband’s wishes. Divorces under Sharia give custody of children automatically to the husband. A woman under Sharia only gets half an inheritance, etc.

    If we allow Sharia arbitration, the next step Muslims will take is forming Sharia Law Courts. Now we’ll have a parallel legal system operating in this country, like they do in Britain. This is unacceptable. There can be only one set of laws in this secular country. Our Constitution was specifically designed to stop just that from happening, you know, the whole separation of church and state idea, ring a bell?

    • Eric Celeste

      You are dumb.

      • echo4alpha

        Is this your actual response, or is someone posing as the author?

    • T_S_

      You should have stopped at the “supposed to be about freedom and equality in this country”, and moved on. The rest contradicts this opening statement, with the exception, possibly, of the “as a Texan” part perchance. Maybe add “certain kind of” to that part.

    • Matt Brenneman

      Good points…it is just too bad so many ppl either don’t understand what Sharia law actually is or they just don’t have the humanity to care about the human rights abuses which are an inherent part of Sharia law.
      To restate what you said somewhat differently: If you asked someone if it was OK for a Protestant to burn a witch, they would either think you are joking or be repulsed. Yet, this is exactly what Sharia law is, except more so: it is a system of laws based totally on religion that demands barbaric punishment for gays, women, the mentally ill, and apostates. Sharia law directly contravenes every basic principle of our legal system (such as freedom, equality, and fairness), a good example of which is domestic disputes, where the imams generally grant the husband permission to beat his wife. Why would any *human being* let alone America, think this is acceptable and should be allowed?.

    • Lucy Chiang

      sorry that you think this way =/

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  • Cynthia Dixon

    Ah, I had high hopes for Irving when I moved back in 2004. New charismatic City Manager, developers interested in North & South Irving; eventually, a female mayor! I felt that the city I knew during my high school years (late 1960’s), was becoming more cosmopolitan, growing more diverse & would once again be a prime destination despite losing Texas Stadium. Now, I realize that the heart of Irving is still narrow-minded & resistant to any real change. Why would newcomers even think about moving here if they don’t fit the ‘norm’?

  • Mavdog

    Odd, but I’ve gone online and searched through Breibart.com, Glenn Beck, Rep. Leach, and Googled Mayor Van Dunne to read their comments against Christian Peacemaker Ministries, the Jewish Beth Din, and the Catholic Diocese arbitration and mediation groups.
    I’m shocked that they haven’t mentioned any opposition to these other like-kind groups to what the Islamic Tribunal does.
    Odd don’t you think?
    I wonder why there’s no similar outrage……

    • Robert Cat

      Because Islam doesn’t allow for the laws of the land. In Islam, Islam is the law, and there is no law above that. Allowing Islamic tribunals is the first step toward getting Sharia Law Courts. That’s why there’s a concern about them. If Jewish and Christian sects use religion to make decisions in religious courts that go against the laws of our land, they should be abolished too.

    • Tom Fenimore

      IDIOT,,,,,,,none of the organizations you mentioned usurps the laws of the USA …….contrary to the Muslim law which attempts to replace legal binding actions with Sharia law and not the legal binding laws of the USA. If you like it then move to a country that embraces Sharia law…………NOT HERE!!!!

  • Seymour Butts

    “pro-Sharia Law”

    You mean, like the pro-Christian Hitler law you support? Christians want to commit genocide, and usurp the constitution John David Wells is Hitler incarnate. An evil bastard.

  • Robert Cat

    So, you’re okay with Islamic tribunals, who make decisions based on the Qu’ran, a book that views women as 2nd class citizens, equal with men?

  • Robert Cat

    NOT equal with men.

  • Ellie

    Well, Ari, because you took the opposition to Sharia law and twisted it to make those opposed to the Islamic Tribunal appear racist, narrow minded and anti Muslim which is patently untrue. I invite your readers to look up the Arabic words taqiyya and kitman.

  • Ellie

    Eric, I just cancelled my subscription to D Magazine after reading this tripe. It is obvious that you have NOT done your homework. You need to do a lot research and try to keep your mind open for a minute.

  • Farhan Silat
  • Richard Simpkins

    They are allowed that “first step,” as are all other arbitration systems. Call me when they (or anyone else) initiate a “second step.” You know, something that’s actually illegal.

  • Richard Simpkins

    I’m Catholic. We have the same kinds of tribunals. They’re called canon law courts, ecclesiastical courts, or diocesan arbitration. I’m okay with it in my faith tradition and in theirs.

  • Dubious Brother

    Is this mosque Sunni or Shia?

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  • Eric Foster

    It appears Shrieking Law is already in place in Irving.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, don’t let the door hit your 60 IQ a** on the way out.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, don’t let the door hit your 60 IQ a** on the way out.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, you are racist. That much is clear. What is not clear is how you think twisting linguistics around to suit your agenda will help your cause. I can do the same. Look up the English words “war on terror”, “George W Bush”, and “genocide”. You’ll fund those have a lot in common.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, I looked up the words, and apparently, morons like you who don’t apparently even know a lick of English, much less other languages, got the meaning of the words completely wrong. Damn. Now I have to give you a public a** whooping for being a moron.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, I looked up the words, and apparently, morons like you who don’t apparently even know a lick of English, much less other languages, got the meaning of the words completely wrong. D*mn. Now I have to give you a public a** whooping for being a moron.

  • Seymour Butts

    Ellie, I looked up the words, and apparently, m*rons like you who don’t apparently even know a lick of English, much less other languages, got the meaning of the words completely wrong. D*mn. Now I have to give you a public a** whooping for being a m*ron.

  • Matt Brenneman

    It is not “anti-Islamic foolishness”….Europe has had catastrophic damage due to the unchecked bossy forceful Muslims who feel every country they go to has to cater and adapt to them. It’s already going on in England because they did not take appropriate action to initially curb Sharia like courts and Sweden is now the “rape capital of Europe” because Swedish women have the impudence to walk around unscarved, inciting the passions of the Muslim men. It is a cultural arrogance that far surpasses any claim of “anti-Islamism” (a made up word being promoted by the Islamic Council). Muslims have a fair chance of being able to pull the same coup ff here in the US as ppl are fawning all over Muslims to accommodate them and their nasty laws in the name of “multiculturalism” and to try to prove that they are not “Islamaphobes”

  • Matt Brenneman

    It is not “anti-Islamic foolishness” (as it has been portrayed in the
    media)….Europe has had catastrophic damage due to the unchecked bossy
    forceful Muslims who feel every country they go to has to cater and
    adapt to them. It’s already going on in England because they did not
    take appropriate action to initially curb Sharia like courts and Sweden
    is now the “rape capital of Europe” because Swedish women have the
    impudence to walk around unscarved, inciting the passions of the Muslim
    men. It is a cultural arrogance that far surpasses any claim of
    “anti-Islamism” (a made up word being promoted by the Islamic Council)
    and anyone who has seen the treatment of women under Sharia law should
    be alarmed by it (there is a reason some wear coverings, and it is not
    entirely religious). Muslims have a fair chance of being able to pull
    the same coup off here
    in the US as ppl are fawning all over Muslims to accommodate them and
    their nasty laws in the name of “multiculturalism” and to try to prove
    that they are not “Islamaphobes”

    • T_S_

      Replace Muslims with Italian or Irish, and you could be posting on the 1800’s version of Frontburner.

  • T_S_

    According to Ellie, you need to do the research online or you’ll lose listeners…

  • Matt Brenneman

    Well put….”Islam” means to “submit” and Muslims want others to submit to their ways and will do anything to achieve that goal. Anyone who thinks otherwise should remember Charlie Hedbro or the Swedish govt changing their constitution w/o the citizens approval to accommodate Muslims and now being pressured by Muslims to take the red cross off their national flag. This is a type of arrogance and intolerance that far surpasses the charges they are making.

  • Matt Brenneman

    US would do well to take a history lesson from Europe, which is awash with conflict created by Muslim demands that other countries abide by their dictates and customs…England is overrun with Sharia courts, the French journalism system is censored, and Sweden has changed their constitution expressly to accommodate Muslims (who now are pressuring Sweden to remove the red cross from the Swedish national flag)….For “Islamaphobia” to be a “phobia”, the fear must be irrational: it is clearly not in this case.

    • rjd

      Love getting political advice from a guy who thinks Switzerland is Sweden.

  • Matt Brenneman

    You’re like the guy Voltaire described as “knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing”…it is a cross, but not red, OK, yet the fact remains and the point is valid, which is something you can’t seem to grasp…smh

  • DelkusSleeves

    You are all going to die, and either have your ashes spread across the land or be put in a box and buried underground. All this fighting is stupid. How is the weather.

  • moishe pippick

    To everyone cowering in fear of the iminent takeover of America by Sharia law: 1) You must think America is pretty weak if it can really be theatened like this 2) Your ignorant paranoid bullshit is going to get America into more and more wars and more debt and divide divide divide us further. GET YOUR SHIT CORRECT. I don’t want to have to send my daughter off to one your wars someday.

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  • Matt Brenneman

    If you asked someone if it was OK for a Protestant to burn a witch, they would either think you are joking or be repulsed. Yet, this is exactly what Sharia law is, except more so: it is a system of laws based totally on religion that demands barbaric punishment for gays, women, the mentally ill, and apostates. Sharia law directly contravenes every basic principle of our legal system (such as freedom, equality, and fairness), a good example of which is domestic disputes, where the imams generally grant the husband permission to beat his wife. They have no right to do this on American soil.

  • Dubious Brother

    How can you write an article about a Muslim Imam without asking is he is Sunni or Shiite? We need to know if he is Sunni and supports al-Qida, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood and Isis who all want to destroy Israel, Western Civilization and all Shiites or is he Shiite and supports Shia Hizballah which wants to destroy Israel, Western Civilization and all Sunnis.

  • Tom Fenimore

    PLEEEZE………..GO DRINK THE COOLAID.

  • Seymour Butts

    You’re a m*ron, clearly. And learn how to speak English.

  • Seymour Butts

    You’re point isn’t valid, and you are a f*cktard.

  • Seymour Butts

    Dumb*ss

  • Robert Cat

    Well, that’s how Britain got their parallel legal system with Sharia, so don’t act like it isn’t possible for it to happen.

  • Robert Cat

    Does your faith view men and woman as equals in these courts? Cause in Islam, women are NOT equal with men legally or socially.

  • Robert Cat

    Except the Italians and Irish didn’t have a religious/political ideology they were pushing on everyone here.

  • Robert Cat

    What an eloquent, well thought out response that fully supports your position on Islam and Sharia Law.

  • Robert Cat

    People like Eric think Islam is reasonable because, they would rationalize “most Muslims are peaceful”. Except most muslims really aren’t, at least not in their own Sharia Law countries.

    Islamic countries live under harsh laws that allow bloggers like Eric to be lashed to death for speaking his opinion. All lslamic countries have Honor Killing laws that give men the right to kill their female relatives/wife and get no punishment. Gays are executed in Iran in state sanctioned killings, meaning it’s not some crazy mob, it’s the government doing it. I could go on about the horrors of Islam.

  • Robert Cat

    What’s interesting is that all you do, Seymour, is insult other commenters. You aren’t making logical, reasonable arguments in defense of your position.

  • Robert Cat

    Exactly. Thank you for pointing that out.

  • Matt Brenneman

    Wow…you really have no notion of “jihad”, do you? (something that NO nation ever had).

  • Dupper bob

    I’ll make it simple;

    “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Constitution Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” – Article VI, Clause 2

    This part means that NOTHING, regardless of its source, INCLUDING SHARIA LAW, will EVER have any lawful superiority over the U.S. Constitution.

  • echo4alpha

    Nice, insult her intelligence. Ad hominems are a pathetic weapon.

  • echo4alpha

    Public whipping? You’re only whooping yourself right now.

  • echo4alpha

    Yeah, he made a terrible comparison.

  • Kelly Jackson

    You seem to have left off the bit from their website that proclaims it’s model should be followed everywhere in the US.