In Fluoride Debate, Steve Blow Lays Bare His Less Than Beautiful Mind

Really. This has to stop.

We’ve had some fun recently with Steve Blow’s substandard work. First John Neely Bryan skewered him. Then Zac, not having seen Mr. Bryan’s post, had a go at Blow. (It was interesting that they both hit on the same satirical concept; for my money, Bryan executed it better.) But essentially Blow’s point was: “cool kids in town” (his phrase) don’t want to build a toll road in the Trinity floodway. “Sensible adults” know better. Sensible adults understand that we need more tolled highways ringing downtown Dallas. His folksy argument made no sense. And his use of a derogatory term for people like esteemed architect Bob Meckfessel reveals prejudice.

Today Blow brings us another noteworthy column. This time he’s writing about the fluoridation of our drinking water. The City Council will soon vote on whether it should continue. Blow thinks it should. His argument goes like this: the dentist who was instrumental in getting fluoride added to our water, Jim Williams, once paid for a D-Day veteran to attend a commemoration of the war in France. That dentist says the highlight of his career was getting fluoride added to our water. Therefore, we should take his word for it when he says we should keep putting fluoride in our water. The guy arguing against fluoride is Howard Garrett, an organic gardener who bills himself as the Dirt Doctor. But he’s not an actual doctor! So what the heck does he know? We should ignore him.

Jim Schutze had foreknowledge of the column and did a pretty good job of tearing it apart yesterday. The science on fluoride is by no means certain. Read this for background. A respected journal recently classified fluoride as a neurotoxin. As Schutze points out, dentists can tell you that fluoride is good for teeth; that doesn’t mean that it’s not dangerous to our brains. I would simply like to point out that Williams’ kind deed for a WWII vet has nothing to do with fluoride. Just as Garrett’s clever marketing shouldn’t preclude him from participating in this discussion. (The Dirt Doctor called Blow’s column “inane” and said he didn’t read the research that Garrett sent him.)

It’s one thing when Blow is merely bad. Corn-pone prose about how everyone uses smartphones won’t hurt anyone. It’s quite another thing when he ventures into the fields of transportation, urban planning, and neuroscience. He has his picture in the newspaper. There’s still a surprisingly large segment of the population that thinks he’s therefore someone to be trusted. And here’s where Steve Blow goes from being an embarrassment to being a danger.

Mike Wilson, please stop this.

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  • Darren Dupre

    Fluoride in the amounts present in American fluoridated public water supplies has never been shown to be toxic to humans. There exists no studies that make this claim.

    Many anti-F activists are citing a Harvard study showing toxicity, but it has to do with water with naturally-occurring amounts of fluoride that happen to be extremely high. Public water sources will, if not adding fluoride to the water, will actually take some out if already present and in too high quantities.

    I have to question your judgement in bashing one journalist for supposedly being out of his league while quite clearly being out of your league yourself.

    • Johnny

      My bet is that this Darren Dupre dupe has never been laid in his life…

    • Dan Germouse

      You’re out of your league, Darren. Dental fluorosis is fluoride poisoning. Saying it’s only a cosmetic effect is like saying the blue line around the gums from lead poisoning is only a cosmetic effect.

      Here’s some quotes from the 2006 US National Research Council report Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA’s Standards.
      “Excessive intake of fluoride during enamel development can lead to enamel [i.e. dental] fluorosis, a condition of the dental hard tissues in which the enamel covering of the teeth fails to crystallise properly, leading to defects that range from barely discernible markings to brown stains and surface pitting.”
      “The improper mineralisation that occurs with enamel fluorosis is thought to be due to inhibition of the matrix proteinases responsible for removing amelogenin fragments. The delay in removal impairs crystal growth and makes the enamel more porous.… Fluoride apparently interferes with protease activities by decreasing free Ca2+ [calcium ion] concentration in the mineralising milieu.”
      “There appears to be general acceptance in today’s dental literature that enamel fluorosis is a toxic effect of fluoride intake”
      “Moderate and severe dental fluorosis have been reported in diabetes insipidus patients in other countries with drinking water containing fluoride at 0.5 mg/L (Klein 1975) or 1 mg/L (Seow and Thomsett 1994)”

  • Darren Dupre

    By the way, water itself is a toxin. You have to drink almost inhuman quantities of water to actually experience water intoxication, but it’s possible and documented. I’m not lying – look it up.

    I’m quite shocked and dismayed that what were once reputable news publications in Dallas are now giving credence to extreme pseudoscience.

    I understand – not everyone has a background in science. But please, if you don’t understand something or are not sure about something, PLEASE talk to a scientist or someone who is educated in the sciences and can render a competent opinion. You and Schutze clearly did not.

    • AeroRazavi

      As far as water being toxic how about some context. A person cannot live without water. Are you suggesting a person cannot live without fluoride?

    • Dan Germouse

      Darren, you are making a fool of yourself. Calling water a toxin is an abuse of the English language, and yes, I am aware that drinking too much of it can be harmful. I also have a science education, as do many other opponents of forced-fluoridation. Comparing fluoride to water makes no sense, for reasons which should be obvious. It makes far more sense to compare it to lead, arsenic, and mercury, which like fluoride are naturally occurring elements, cumulative poisons, developmental neurotoxicants, and not nutrients. The level of toxicity of fluoride is similar to those of lead and arsenic.

  • Steve Zimmerman

    Hey let’s make this decision based on what “set” or “crew” we like or dislike and what we think of a strawperson’s footwear.

  • Darren Dupre

    One more comment – I actually met one of these anti-fluoride activists at Dallas City Hall last year. He was handing out pamphlets to protesters (who were protesting something unrelated). I talked to him briefly and received one of his pamphlets. The guy was wearing a “9/11 Truth” pin on his lapel.

    These are the types of people you are giving credibility and credence to.

    • AeroRazavi

      Is that science?

    • Johnny Genlock

      So, . . . you’re going for character assassination type-casting. “These are the types of people”, . . . Our club doesn’t let that sort in. Is that it? Let me give you the type of people who do not fluoridate their water in Dallas, Darren. Highland Park and University Park. Never have. Never will. Yes, Darren, “These are the types of people” who don’t want more fluoride added into their water.

    • Kurt Ferré

      An associate of Dr. Paul Connett is Alex Jones. Dr. Connett has appeared on Jones’ TV/radio show several times.

      Alex Jones (radio host) – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host

      And check out this video to see what a whack-job, Alex Jones is. If you are gay, beware!

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/alex-jones-gays-government-chemicals_n_2520280.html

      “Mainstream sources have described Jones as a conservative and as a right-wing conspiracy theorist. Jones has been the center of many controversies, and has accused the US government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing and September 11 attacks. Dallas City Council: Do the right thing. Vote for public health, vote for the greater good of your fellow citizens, especially your children. Look at the rest of your state and ask, “Where are the victims?” Ft Worth? Austin? Houston? San Antonio? El Paso? Lubbock? ALL fluoridated !!

      Answer: There are no victims.

  • billholston

    hey Glen, what’s wrong with Socks and Sandals?

  • Lucas Cepak

    Excellent strawman, Glenn! I didn’t see anywhere in Tim’s piece where he sided with crazy Commie conspiracies. If anything, he simply pointed out that Steve used an unrelated sentimental act by somebody as a means of building trust for that person’s viewpoint, then used another person’s marketing name as a reason to NOT believe him, all the while linking articles that raise valid concerns without mentioning Communists.

    But seriously, Steve Blow is really annoying to read.

  • RAB

    Reading Blow is like smelling a fart. Oh, it smells so bad! And then you have to take another sniff. It’s weird. I can’t help myself. I scream at the paper when I read him — and my only consolation is knowing that it’s killing Tim just as bad. He’s gotta smell that fart, too.

    • Dead Bil Keane

      I feel the same way when I read the cartoon Family Circus. “Mommy, Jeffy’s fart’s smell like eggs!”

  • DallasPolitics

    The science is pretty settled that low level fluoride is not harmful to health and is beneficial in preventing tooth decay. It has been one of the great public health boons with benefit accruing especially to the poor with limited access to dental care.

    • Peter Thomas

      Actually no double blind randomized trial has ever proven fluoride safe and effective. Its’ an unapproved drug according to the FDA. The benefit to the poor is a deception. Fluoride harms the poor more because they have poor nutrition, more kidney disease and diabetes. The CDC knew that fluoridation was harming blacks disproportionately.
      http://iaomt.org/blacks-disproportionately-harmed-fluoridated-water/

    • Dan Germouse

      The perpetrators of forced-fluoridation rely on marketing thinly disguised as scientific research. Science illiterates should keep their opinions on science to themselves.

    • Paul McKinney

      IQ damage from chronic fluoride exposure, even at low levels is well studied. The CDC refers to the Hong Kong study in there proposed 2011 standard. Hong Kong is at .5ppm. Exactly where Dallas’s average Raw water level is before we start spending $1MM a year. Let’s look at the details from one of the studies that Harvard reviewed in the meta analysis. the Xiang et al study from 2003, Xiang was agood study controlled for lead and iodin – and retrospectively for arsenic. See his Table 8 where he sub-dividd the children in the High Fluorie village into sub groups A – E with F concentriton goign from 0.75 to 4.3 ppm. Found a dose related decrease in IQ as F concentrartion went up – also % of children with an IQ went up in a linear fashion – from 0-37.5%.

      1.26 ppm is calculated by substrating the standard deviation from the mean value 1.52 ppm – 0.26 ppm = 1.26 ppm. This is the dosage at which IQ loss begins to occur. The test group was not exposed to other sources of fluoride, like we are in the US, i.e., tooth paste, fumigates, cement plants… So Dallas Politics, what level are you willing to accept the legal liability for? And how do you propose to control the dosage (e,g., how much water a 5 year might drink)?

  • James Reeves

    Would You Drink Shampoo to Clean Your Hair?
    Or drink sunscren to prtect the skin?
    It is just as silly to swallow fluoride in drinking water to think it may affect the teeth.

    The science of tobacco, DDT, lead in gasoline, thalidomide, and asbestos were wrong. The “Vioxx” science resulted in 27,785 heaart attacks and sudden cardiac deaths ( FDA data). Remember when the health professionals advertised, “a pack a day keeps cancer away?”

    The 70 year old “science” of fluoride is outdated, discredited and wrong as well.

    Consider this:
    In the US, over 70 % fluoridated.
    In Europe, 3%.
    In the world, 5%.
    Also Israel banned fluoridation last year.

    Data from the World Health Organization shows that the tooth decay rate in Europe is as good or better than any fluoridated country. This shows how ineffective fluoride is for teeth.

    • RAB

      “Data from the World Health Organization shows that the tooth decay rate in Europe is as good or better than any fluoridated country. This shows how ineffective fluoride is for teeth.”

      Actually, Jim, your logic is flawed. There are too many other variables affecting tooth decay that the studies don’t control for, so your conclusion doesn’t logically follow your premise.

    • regina

      Your points are very well written! I agree!

    • AnalogyGuy

      Wait, soap goes on hair to clean it. Sunscreen goes on skin to protect it. Couldn’t that same principle be applied to drinking water with fluoride? I’m not a scientist so I can’t say whether fluoride really does anything, but out of all of your analogies of drinking everything in front of you, drinking water containing fluoride, i.e. traveling down your gullet by first hitting your pearly whites, is the only actual, true application in any of your scenarios. Like, of course drinking tanning oil doesn’t bronze my skin, that’s not how it works. I came here not to talk about the poisonous implications of fluoride, just your examples. Thank you. Good day to you all.

  • James Reeves

    Everyone wants safe, clean water and not the added drug fluoride.

    The solution for the fluoridation issue is very simple.

    SIMPLE SOLUTION:
    1. Take the toxic waste fluoride chemical out of the drinking water.
    2. It is still legal and available, so those who wish to take it can then put fluoride in their own glass of water (as much as they wish).
    3. Leave the rest of us out of it, giving everyone the freedom of choice.
    PROBLEM SOLVED.

    • Trisha Yates

      Saying something does not make it true. I want fluoridation – I also want safe clean water – the two are not opposed. I don’t want drugs in my water – that has nothing to do with fluoridation. Conflation nation here..

  • Bushwood Smithie

    “It’s quite another thing when when he ventures into the fields of transportation, urban planning, and neuroscience.”

    And your credentials in these fields are?

    Tim, if he shouldn’t be writing about these subjects, then why should you (or Schutze)?

  • Peter Thomas

    For those of you who are unsure about fluoride and don’t have much time, do a search for the online video “Professional Perspectives on Water Fluoridation”. It’s 28 min long and really well worth watching. It features a Nobel Laureate in Medicine, scientists from the National Research Council review on fluoride as well as dentists and doctors.
    Also read the book “The Fluoride Deception” by Christopher Bryson. The book is nothing less than an exhumation of one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era: how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of all time was added to our drinking water. Another great book is “The Case Against Fluoride” by Connett, Beck and Micklem – 3 PhD’s including a medical doctor. This book will ruthlessly expose the pro- fluoride shenanigans and shows how hazardous waste ended up in our drinking water and the bad science and powerful politics that keep it there. It discusses the side effects of this insidious poison with over 1200 scientific references.

  • Peter Thomas

    Case histories and peer reviewed research shows that fluoride can cause harm even at low levels. People can experience toxicity symptoms from drinking fluoridated water or using fluoride tablets. Symptoms include neurological problems, headaches, skin irritation, gastrointestinal pain and symptoms, chronic fatigue, joint pains, and polydipsia (Waldbott 1956, 1958, Feltman 1956, Feltman and Kosel 1961, Grimbergen 1974, Petraborg 1977, Spittle 2008). Patients were often unaware that their drinking water contained fluoride. Symptoms improved with avoidance of fluoridated water and returned with consumption of fluoridated water or with experimental challenge with fluoride and confirmed by double blind testing. Doctors aren’t trained to suspect fluoride, so patients may be treated for side effects when all that is needed, is avoidance of fluoridated water.
    The Feltman and Kosel study was published in the Journal of Dental Medicine and received funding from the US Public Health Service, Department of Health Education and Welfare, Washington DC.

  • Peter Thomas

    “Fluorine and fluorides can act as direct cellular poisons by interfering with calcium metabolism and enzyme mechanisms.” (Handbook of Poisoning: Prevention, Diagnosis and Treatment, 11th Edition, 1983.)
    “Fluoride is an enzyme poison, in the same class as cyanide, oxalate, or azide … it is capable of a very wide variety of harmful effects, even at low doses.” (James B. Patrick, Ph.D., antibiotics research scientist.)
    “Yes, fluoride is an (enzyme) inhibitor. You are right in the implication that when it comes to certain patients, it is important that they do not have fluoride in the water.” (Dr. Harold Loe, National Institute of Dental Research, to a subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, 1989.)

  • Peter Thomas

    There are so many absurdities with fluoridation, it is hard to know which is the most bizarre. How about this one: Some of the HFSA sold in the U.S. comes from China. Fluoride lowers I.Q. So the rising world power is selling toxic waste to the current(but declining) world power that may be making their kids less intelligent and less able to compete. They must be laughing in Bejing like they laughed at Tim Geithner when he assured them that U.S. would never stiff them on their bond holdings.

  • EFC

    Can we crowdsource Steve Blow’s forced retirement???????

    He just, just, just has been such an easy target for so long……

    In hopes of a nicer less dorkier 2015….

    Namaste…..

    • Dan Germouse

      That’s an interesting way to describe putting him in jail.

  • Peter Thomas

    Bottle fed babies receive a toxic dose of fluoride exceeding the maximum allowable dose by some margin. They receive up to 250 times more fluoride than breast fed. Nature protects the breast fed baby. Incompetent officials poison babies. Also those bottle fed babies will get an extra helping of arsenic, lead, mercury, radioactive isotopes, cadmium, and solvents. The fluoride chemicals are mildly radioactive due to the high uranium content of the phosphate rock. Fertilizer companies can use waste sulfuric acid in their process from other industries introducing dozens of other contaminants.

  • ben

    Quote from Philip Landrigan, author of the article in The Lancet Nuerology, that Tim references:

    “Fluoride is very much a two-edged sword,” Landrigan said. “There’s no question that, at low doses, it’s beneficial.” Flouride has been shown to prevent dental cavities and aid skeletal growth. At higher levels, though, it causes tooth and bone lesions. The epidemiologic studies cited by Grandjean and Landrigan, which came from China, imply that high fluoride exposure has negative effects on brain growth.

    “Are the exposure levels in China comparable to what we have in our drinking water and toothpaste?” I asked.

    “No, they’re probably higher,” Landrigan said. “In some places in China, there are naturally high levels of fluoride in the groundwater, which picks it up because it’s water-soluble.”

    “So your advice isn’t to take it out of our toothpaste?”

    “Not at all,” Landrigan said. “I think it’s very good to have in toothpaste.”

    Tim, please, don’t be lazy. You’re giving credibility to this jackass with poorly researched posts.

    • Dan Germouse

      If Landrigan said that, he is wrong. There is no credible evidence that ingesting fluoride provides any benefit at any dose. He should stick to what he knows.

    • Suzanne Sudduth

      The main fluoride chemical (fluorosilicic acid) that is added to water is not a naturally occurring compound.
      It is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry.

  • Tom T

    Tim.
    You said it well.

  • Tom T

    You said it well.

  • Tom T

    You said it well.

    The LOCAL Anti-Fluoride website is pretty good and kind of fun. There is one conspiracy dog on it though. The dog wasn’t wearing a pin, it was in one.
    DogsAgainstFluoridation.com
    http://www.dogsagainstfluoridation.com/

  • Dan Germouse

    What we do know is that forced-fluoridation, and fluoride ingestion in general, is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for low rates of dental caries. We also know that forced-fluoridation commonly causes dental fluorosis, which is a toxic effect.

  • Dan Germouse

    Steve blows.

  • Dan Germouse

    I have a science education and have researched the issue, so I’m happy to discuss the evidence relating to various health effects. You don’t need to know anything about science to make a rock solid argument against forced-fluoridation, though, because it’s a blatant abuse of human rights.

  • James Reeves

    Well, how would anyone explain the fact that over 70% of fluoridated does no better with decay rate than 3% other than fluoride is of no value? The other variables you mention occur with both groups.
    Most people understand this comparison.

  • regina

    Thank you for this article…you wrote what I was thinking when I read the Steve Blow article!! For people interested in finding out more about Fluoridation and how to get involved in the Dallas Fluoridation issue…please check out http://www.dogsagainstfluoridation.com

  • regina

    Lucas great recap!!

  • regina

    Is your low the same as my low…are you getting the same amount of fluoride daily as I get? How many different sources of fluoride do I consume? How can you know? Fluoridation is one of The Top Ten Blunders of the 20th Century. Research shows poverty areas are more burdened by fluoridation…please check out http://www.dogsagainstfluoridation.com

  • Paul McKinney

    Just was listing to Howard Garrett and Dr. Jim Williams discussing this on the Marc Davis show 660amtheanswer. Both did well and are just good people. I think it’s important to mention two things that Dr. Williams stated. Fluoride only works topically (that means not ingested in water, by most people). He also said that Dallas surface water doesn’t have fluoride. Might have been true at one point, but not now. I have the Raw Data from the Dallas Water Department in front of me with the Daily averages for all of 2013. The amount of Fluoride in our Raw water is .5ppm. This is the same level that Hong Kong fluoridates at which is the supporting reference in the CDC proposed 2011 standard (however, they changed the number to .7ppm, for no apparent reason). So bottom line, we have plenty of Fluoride in our Raw Water, and so many other sources that there is no reason to fluoridate, and we can save over $1M per year just in artificial fluoridation cost!

  • billholston

    man, I stand convicted…..if only that were my only fashion faux pas.

  • Brett Moore

    Wait. Glenn is pro-fluoride? I am now anti-fluoride.

  • Eric Celeste

    OMG: GMOs. Amirite? SMDH.

  • Regina Imburgia

    We need to send messages to The Mayor and Dallas City Council…VOTE NO on January 28th! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3xr2UsNRNE&feature=youtu.be Dr Cole DDS appeal to The Council…

  • Daniel Pyron

    The greatest benefits are to children and teens – those still growing teeth. When fluoride is deposited in the mineral matrix of teeth it leaves them more resistant to acid damage. Topical application can help too (though you really need the high levels of toothpaste, or the fluoride rinses or gels) but in that case the fluoride can only bind to a very thin surface layer rather than the full thickness of the enamel.

  • Joe

    Contact Mayor and City Council Regarding Fluoridation. One Message Reaches ALL of Them.

    http://www.ci.dallas.tx.us/forms/mcc/MCC_Mail_Form.htm

    Mayor and City Council

  • Daniel Pyron

    The conspiracy woo is thick in comment land.
    A point which seems to need hourly repetition – the dose makes the poison.
    At one level of consumption of water you die from dehydration, at another you are just right, another you die from water overload. Among other things that can harm at too much are oxygen and vitamin D.
    Dose. Makes. The. Poison.
    At the levels used in fluoridation fluoride is safe and effective. The China studies which some woo heads like to cite (and misunderstand) involved natural levels many times higher than would be ever used. If it had been US water systems rather than Chinese most of the fluoride would have been removed to bring the concentration down to safe levels.

    • Daniel Pyron
    • Dan_Germouse44

      You should think more carefully about what you write. The “dose makes the poison” dogma is outdated. There are some poisons for which no safe threshold dose is apparent, and fluoride is one of them. Fluoride is also a cumulative poison. It is almost certainly common for people who have been subjected to forced-fluoridation for at least a few decades to have fluoride concentrations in their bones higher than that of fluoridated toothpaste. At the same time, the perpetrators of forced-fluoridation claim that fluoride concentrations five orders of magnitude lower in saliva are effective for prevention of dental caries. If you still think forced-fluoridation is safe and effective, you will believe anything. Your comments on IQ studies from China are also inaccurate.
      http://forcedfluoridationfreedomfighters.com/a-preliminary-investigation-into-fluoride-accumulation-in-bone/

    • Paul McKinney

      Let’s look at the details from one of the studies that Harvard reviewed in the meta analysis. the Xiang et al study from 2003, Xiang was agood study controlled for lead and iodin – and retrospectively for arsenic. See his Table 8 where he sub-dividd the children in the High Fluorie village into sub groups A – E with F concentriton goign from 0.75 to 4.3 ppm. Found a dose related decrease in IQ as F concentrartion went up – also % of children with an IQ went up in a linear fashion – from 0-37.5%.

      1.26 ppm is calculated by substrating the standard deviation from the mean value 1.52 ppm – 0.26 ppm = 1.26 ppm. This is the dosage at which IQ loss begins to occur. The test group was not exposed to other sources of fluoride, like we are in the US, i.e., tooth paste, fumigates, cement plants… So Daniel, what level are you willing to accept the legal liability for? And how do you propose to control the dosage (e,g., how much water a 5 year might drink)?

  • Kurt Ferré

    Germrat,

    You left out caffeine in your list of neurotoxicants. And as far as I’m concerned, let’s add Vegemite from your homeland of Australia as a vile substance that could cause serious damage to one’s body if consumed in large quantities.

    The dose makes the poison.

  • Kurt Ferré

    A witch doctor claims that he or she has a science education, too. So what? What science you understand is blocked by your ideological and irrational paranoia over fluoridation at 0.7 ppm.

  • Bill Marvel

    A great mystery to me: Why do those who don’t like Blow insist upon reading him and then telling the rest of us what they think about him? And, by inference, what we’re supposed to think about him? Write about fluoridation? That’s fine. We need to know more about it. But that would require some reporting. Send your critics out to knock on some doors, poke around. Something even columnists should do.

  • Andre Loke

    Ahh Kurt, you`re in fine form again, belittling and insulting those that do not agree with you and things you don`t like in an effort to be smart.

  • Bill Marvel

    Are you offering a scientific argument, Gernouse, or a political one? You have confused categories. This hardly suggests that you have any credibility in either one.

  • Dan_Germouse44

    Are you suggesting that caffeine should also be dumped into public water supplies, Fairy? If not, what is your point? “The dose makes the poison” is outdated dogma, which you have been told before, but of course you never learn.

  • Dan_Germouse44

    I am offering a scientific argument, and a human rights argument. They are two separate arguments. It’s really not very hard to understand, but apparently you are easily confused, Bill.

  • Dan_Germouse44

    Witch doctors generally don’t have degrees from a university with a top 100 world ranking, as I do. I’m also much younger than you and my brain hasn’t ossified, Fairy.

  • Dan_Germouse44

    The permanent teeth have fully erupted long before the teenage years, so what are you talking about? The idea that the fluoride content of teeth makes them more resistant to caries has been debunked anyway. You’re just parroting outdated propaganda.

  • Peter Thomas

    Use toothpaste to put fluoride onto your teeth if you wish to use fluoride. Then spit it out. Swallowing fluoride affects your brain, thyroid, pineal gland and every cell in your body with one of the most toxic environmental contaminants.

  • Paul McKinney

    The Illusion of Precision in our Water Distribution system.
    One of the premises of the CDC using our water system to deliver the unapproved drug, Fluoride, via the water system, is that there is the ability to control a consistent amount. Now while we can’t control how much you drink, we have all these computers and should be able to do this (I know I’ve coded these controllers). Our staff of 1500 folks at Dallas Water Utilities, are all fine and serious about their jobs and the safety or our water. I, for one, am grateful that they are there.

    Dallas has three different water treatment plants. Each one delivers water to different areas of town. The flow rate for all three is 409 Million Gallons a Day. That’s a lot of moving water. You goal as an engineer is to mix a precise amount of drugs into this for the population to ingest. Only problem, that’s a pretty big mixing bowl. That is why you can have the concentration of fluoride vary from .3ppm to 1ppm at the tap. The other problem is when it’s really hot, that causes the concentration of fluoride in the lakes to go up; just when more people are biking, running, working outside and drinking more water. IQ loss starts at consuming 1.26ppm. So if you consider other sources of fluoride, we are already there.

    Do I see a future where we are going to have FLUORIDE ACTION DAYS.

  • Truth Activist

    Get updated news on FLUORIDE in Dallas…

    LOCAL Anti-Fluoridation WEBSITE

    Dogs Against Fluoridation
    http://www.dogsagainstfluoridation.com/

  • Truth Activist

    Get updated news on FLUORIDE in Dallas…

    LOCAL Anti-Fluoridation WEBSITE

    Dogs Against Fluoridation
    http://www.dogsagainstfluoridation.com/

  • Trisha Yates

    This whole article ignores the value of fluoridated water – it improves health. Did you know that dental disease is linked to heart disease? poor nutrition? spending way to much in medical costs at the dentist? Fluoridation has been around for 70 years and researched for longer than that. Try ilikemyteeth.com for a good source of information.

    • Suzanne Sudduth

      Adding fluoride to water started in the Nazi concentration camps. (look it up) The main fluoride chemical (fluorosilicic acid) that is added to water is not a naturally occurring compound.
      It is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry.

  • Jeff

    Would you want drink rat poison of course not but that what fluoride is.If you are skeptical check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvAjqUdRDnQ

  • Dylan Way

    For those who want Fluoride so bad, go and get that shit yourselves and leave the rest of us out of it….Take as much of that shit as you want….BUT LEAVE THE REST OF US EDUCATED FOLK OUT OF IT!!! GOOD-DAY!

  • Suzanne Sudduth

    The main fluoride chemical (fluorosilicic acid) that is added to water is not a naturally occurring compound.
    It is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry.

  • Suzanne Sudduth

    The main fluoride chemical (fluorosilicic acid) that is added to water is not a naturally occurring compound.
    It is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry.