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25 responses to “Looks Like Cesar Chavez Will Get a Street Named For Him After All”

  1. billh says:

    you have my vote Zac. I already have the tshirt.

  2. Brandon says:

    Do you think the council gave a heads-up to the folks working in the Texas Commerce…I mean JP Morgan Chase…tower that they’ll have to change their business cards to 2200 Cesar Chavez Boulevard?

    And does this mean the historic Ross Avenue Baptist Church will have to change its name to Cesar Chavez Boulevard Baptist Church?

  3. Jim says:

    Great let’s trade what little history Dallas has for some california history to appease LULAC pollsters scoring a political point. Great city. Screw you Dave Neuman.

  4. Danno says:

    Mr. Neumann described such a recommendation as being outside the purview of the committee. It is just a recommendation, it has no real power to change any other street than Industrial.How bout Takin the L Train to the Z Crain ?

  5. Topham Beauclerk says:

    “But his suggestion that a quid pro quo deal had been cut prior to the meeting malingered after he left the room.”

    Malingered? Has Ira Gershwin been wrong all these years? I guess it should be:

    “Our romance won’t end on a sorrowful note/Though by tomorrow you’re gone/The song has ended/ but as the song writer wrote/ The melody MALINGERS on . . .”

  6. brett says:

    great! Now I know where to pick up all the day laborers!

  7. publicnewsense says:

    This is a town where idiots thrive.

  8. Daniel says:

    Yeah, brett — the exact same place you pick them up now, at Ross and Carroll.

    Seriously, though — what pathetic pandering this is.

  9. Dave says:

    The reason the Council has bowed and will continue to bow to these interest groups instead of the mainstream majority is because the mainstream majority is silent, whereas the activists pushing this farce are just that – active.

    Unless equally active and well organized groups meet to compel our city lawmakers to use some common sense, we’ll keep losing our Dallas to radical special interests.

    The only way to keep this from happening is to organize, people.

    How ’bout it guys?

  10. OneArtDirector says:

    I’m pissed…why can’t they rename a minor street after Chavez if they must rename a street? That would certainly be in proportion to his influence on this city. This whole political correctness thing has gotten out of hand.

    Regardless, I will still continue to refer to it as Ross Avenue and LULAC can go to hell.

  11. Jim says:

    OneArtDirector:
    I hear ya. You rename ross Chavez and you better go back and re-rename MLK and Malcom X and then change Main and Commerce to MLK and Malcom X, because it is safe to say those two out of towners have had more of an impact on this city than Chavez.

  12. Kris says:

    This whole thing is ridiculous. It’s a street name for God’s sake. I just saw a report on channel 8 that included an interview with some Hispanic group that threatened the wrath of all Hispanics if this street name change doesn’t happen. WTF..

  13. OneArtDirector says:

    Jim, be as snarky as you want but Ross has been around forever and is already named after someone. Why change it now?

    And my beef with renaming a street Chavez stems from the fact that it is LULAC pushing for it. I’d rather make it a minor victory for them than a major victory. :shrugs:

  14. drew says:

    Regarding OneArt’s comment about renaming a street whose importance is proportional to the influence CC had on Dallas, I think Atoka Street near Belmont & Carroll would be a perfect candidate.

  15. OneArtDirector says:

    I wonder how much this is going to cost the businesses that line Ross to make the street name change on all their employee business cards/letterheads.

  16. sjthornton says:

    There’s a street in Oak Cliff named “Chevez.” It’s only about a block long, but it would certainly convey the importance of Chavez to Dallas. Change the “e” to “a” and we’re good to go!

  17. DRJ says:

    When are we going to bow up and stop caving in to these people? This name change will solve nothing. There will only be new targets.
    After every other Street is named after a black or a mexican, all the forts and counties and towns named after Confederate Generals will be under attack….I for one am sick of it.

  18. Bill Betzen says:

    People ask what Cesar Chavez did in Texas. The best answer is found when you go to the Texas Handbook web site (www.tshaonline.org) managed by the Texas State Historical Commission. When you search this Texas State Historical Commission web site for the name Cesar Chavez you will find his name and/or his work in Texas mentioned 9 times in the Texas Handbook. Search for Harry Hines, after whom a major north/south Dallas street is named that goes by Parkland Hospital, and you only get three hits. It is certain, with 9 mentions, that the name Cesar Chavez is more often present on the Texas State Historical Commission web site than the large majority of other names on downtown Dallas streets. Sam Houston is an obvious exception.

    Jim Schutze has a wonderful opinion piece on the Cesar Chavez street naming chaos at http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-07-31/news/what-s-in-a-nombre/. His opinion was only slightly wrong: the move of the name change process from Industrial to Ross, while it may have started as an “accommodation,” is ultimately resulting in a much better solution for many reasons. Here are some of those reasons, most of which have been shared with the mayor and city council:

    Minority leaders were virtually ignored for Dallas street names prior to 1960. That must be corrected!

    Last year 70% of Kindergarten students in Dallas ISD were Hispanic. They are the future Dallas must build for.

    Ross Avenue runs along the southern edge of what was once called Little Mexico. It is only 6 blocks from the old St. Ann’s school which was in the heart of Little Mexico, and is one of the few buildings preserved from that history. (See photo at http://www.studentmotivation.org/littlemexico/index.htm which also shows southwest tip of Ross.)

    Today the northeast end of Ross is 65% Hispanic, as are many locations in Dallas since 43% of the total Dallas population is Hispanic, 29% is Non-Hispanic White, and 23% is Non-Hispanic Black.

    Hundreds of thousands of current Dallas residents, from all ethnic groups, grew up working in conditions that Cesar Chavez successfully worked to change in Texas and across the nation.

    Ross Ave is the largest Hispanic gathering place in Dallas on Sunday mornings. Thousands of Hispanic families attend the Cathedral of Guadalupe each weekend on Ross, filling the Cathedral repeatedly during many repeated liturgical services, all day Sunday, and Saturday evening, that are necessary to accommodate the crowds. No church in Dallas has more people attend services every weekend. The Virgin of Guadalupe played a significant role in the daily life of Cesar Chavez.

    Ross Avenue was the gathering place for the largest Civil Right march in Texas history! From 1:00 PM, and for hours thereafter on April 9, 2006, Ross Avenue was filled with people walking most of it’s length downtown. They peacefully filled the entire street from sidewalk to sidewalk. (See photos taken that day, and others linked from http://www.studentmotivation.org/littlemexico/index.htm.) It is estimated as many as 500,000 people were present in the march. Most were Hispanic. It was an exceptionally impressive day! It is certain Cesar Chavez would have loved the non-violent nature of this huge march.

    Many of the businesses on Ross are either Hispanic (62%), or want to reach out to the Hispanic community for business reasons, and will support this change.

    A historical marker is being planned for the most-walked Ross Avenue intersection: North Market in the West End. It will document the history of the Ross brothers in Dallas, and possibly also the Carondolet name which was originally on the southwestern blocks of what is now Ross Avenue for over 70 years. The Ross Avenue name was expanded and the Carondolet name, going back to 1856, was deleted from maps sometime between 1930 and 1938. It is very appropriate that this naming process will lead to a historical marker that will better record the history of Dallas and bring almost forgotten pioneers back into public record and awareness.

    Both school and church were the center for life for Cesar Chavez. Ross has both the Cathedral and the DISD Central Offices on it. This is especially appropriate.

    A downtown street name will now reflect the presence of generations of Hispanic families who have done the work to literally build, and continue to build, much of our city and culture. It is only appropriate, since they are now the majority in the population of Dallas, that our city infrastructure names should reflect that reality.

    To always push minority names outside of downtown, as many have suggested, is a simple continuation of the “accommodation” scandals Jim Schutze painfully documented in the 1986 book, The Accommodation: The Politics of Race in an American City. (Copies of his book are in the Dallas Library.)

    Anyone who is interested in being involved in these efforts to rename Ross Avenue may want to go to http://www.cesarchaveztaskforce.com for more current information.

    The one thing this street renaming process has exposed again is the absolute need to better educate Texans about their own history. The history of this wonderful state and it’s people is the most powerful tool we have for positive changes into the future. Our true history, not necessarily the recorded one, is powerful. When history is not recorded it is almost always due to political reasons, prejudice against minorities and the poor, and mistreatment thereof. We endanger our children and grandchildren to repeat that painful past if we ignore or hide it. We will not change until we can admit the factual, sometimes painful, truths of our past. The lack of change caused by a falsely positive image of our past will allow our grandchildren’s generation to still suffer in ways too similar to those our grandparents generation suffered.

    The process of exploration as we consider changing a street name helps us admit our past and build to a new and more positive future. We must leave behind the anger, hate, and ignorance of history, that has been reflected on blogs all over the Internet discussing the effort to put the name of Cesar Chavez on a street in Dallas. Dallas Morning News staff have even shut down at least one blog, refusing to take more comments, due to the anger and less than civil dialog reflected on that blog. (See http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/industrialcesar-chavez-votes-h.html#comments. You can also google blogs for “Cesar Chavez Dallas” to find other sad examples.)

    Cesar Chavez would never have wanted us to respond with the same verbal violence that far too many bloggers have used to angrily attack the idea of placing a Hispanic name on a Dallas street. Fortunately, verbally violent counter-attacks by those supporting the Cesar Chavez name change have been rare. We are keeping with the spirit of Cesar Chavez.

    We must continue the peaceful process we have begun to honor Cesar Chavez by only using the same peaceful methods he himself used. We have all benefited from his peaceful work.

    Let’s engage in a process that will say much about Dallas and how our beliefs are reflected in the way we change street names in our city to reflect our values. It will say more about us than it will ever say about Cesar Chavez. His legacy is already firmly established in the History of the USA. The history of Dallas is being built, day by day.

  19. DRJ says:

    SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY IS THIS GUY IS A HERO!!! The UFW was one of the first labor unions to oppose employer sanctions–a federal law that prohibited hiring illegal immigrants in 1973. Later during the 1980s, while Chávez was still the UFW president, Dolores Huerta, the cofounder of the UFW, was key in getting the amnesty provisions into the 1986 federal immigration act….(I copied this information from Wikipedia (sp?) Why not name the street Ronald Reagon Blvd ?

  20. I smell a rat says:

    Get the cut and paste freak Bill Betzen off the blog…Surely there’s a spanish only rag that would be more receptive to his rmblings. His reverse racism is glaringly evident. He would be better served covering rising crime rates and civil disregard by the many illegal immigrants (read illegal aliens), which is one reason people like myself are sick to the back teeth of the perception of entitlement without commitment. If the immigrants want to make a difference, pull your hands back in and graft your way forward.

  21. Student Ambassador says:

    Can someone please explain why people think that renaming Ross Ave. is such a horrible idea? If we can name a highway after Tom Landry, why not name a street after Cesar Chavez? So what if Tom Landry was a football coach, Cesar Chavez fought for civil rights. By renaming Ross Ave. we are acknowledging the inalienable rights of all people in this country.

  22. joey77 says:

    We know who our heroes are and we have decided to honor Cesar Chavez. This decision is community oriented and must come from the Latino community. We have decided on Ross Ave because of the significance it holds for us. Ross Avenue matters because of the Cathedral, DISD headquarters with 70% Latino youth, the Cathedral of Guadalupe on Ross Ave, a gathering of thousands of Hispanic parishiners every Sunday. Also, the mayor agreed that he would support the recommendations of the Latino city council members and asked them to cooperate with the community. If 3 Latinos councils support it, Mayor said he would support it.

  23. Bill Betzen says:

    Some of the postings in this blog indicate the need for some of the most priceless lessons Cesar Chavez taught. Look at the link:

    http://www.tolerance.org/teach/resources/viva_lacausa.jsp?source=redirect&url=teachingtolerance.org/lacausa

    We have a lot to learn. Cesar Chavez can be a priceless resource, unless we want to revert to some of the social attitudes publically accepted before 1960.

  24. Little Miss Haughty says:

    Hey Bill,
    Before you preach about tolerance take a good long look in the mirror. The Hispanic gerrymandering occuring in Dallas is being directed by some of the most intolerant people around. Unity not division is not the way forward and your efforts are at the forefront of division. If it is such a mjor issue put it on the ballot for the city and see how many of the hispanic community step up and vote (assuming they are registered i.e. legal) voters rather than a strw poll which has not meaning.

  25. Brooklyn says:

    Okay, what are yall doing, I came here asking what he looks like but What is All this? but Someone please Let me know what he looks like;

    Please
    &
    Thanks,
    Brooklyn 😀